tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post9114542459752668654..comments2024-01-14T20:10:35.255+11:00Comments on sweetondean: SUPERNATURAL THINK TANK - Thinky Thoughts on Supernatural 11x11sweetondeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-71165460244693105382016-02-01T15:23:02.876+11:002016-02-01T15:23:02.876+11:00thank you so much..i really do appreciate that you...thank you so much..i really do appreciate that you guys take the time to read my thoughts. It's always a pleasure hearing other's as well...hope to hear back from you on your thoughts as well. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02072198570267148553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-91484848759299814562016-02-01T11:07:20.363+11:002016-02-01T11:07:20.363+11:00The only thing that makes sense for both Dean and ...The only thing that makes sense for both Dean and Bobby to be so mean about the promise is PTSD. They did go through a lot. I just wish Sam always wasn't portrayed as the bad guy. Dean doesn't apologize so much as state that "he did what he had to do", when he does wrong. I guess it's time to let the past go. Thanks for your reply.Mallenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368492098724611717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-70252458795290625242016-02-01T06:36:35.388+11:002016-02-01T06:36:35.388+11:00I totally enjoyed and agree with your Thinky Thoug...I totally enjoyed and agree with your Thinky Thoughts. I am happy with the closure between Sam and Dean.It's time. I love Robbie's episodes! Was done without feeling Girly.😊 I am a fan of your writing. <br />Twitter as DonnaY1legwondr Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13975531162768186056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-29582901032573264522016-02-01T06:29:33.100+11:002016-02-01T06:29:33.100+11:00I totally enjoyed and agree with your Thinky Thoug...I totally enjoyed and agree with your Thinky Thoughts. I am happy with the closure between Sam and Dean.It's time. I love Robbie's episodes! Was done without feeling Girly.😊 I am a fan of your writing. <br />Twitter as DonnaY1legwondr Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13975531162768186056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-81686981828662710212016-01-31T17:00:59.912+11:002016-01-31T17:00:59.912+11:00I think Sam broke because of the promise. It's...I think Sam broke because of the promise. It's my personal feeling that if that pact didn't exist, Sam wouldn't have felt honor bound to not try to find a way to bring Dean back. As for Bobby, he was in hell being tortured for quite awhile, so anything Bobby said I took with a grain of salt, because I figured he was off the rails himself. I don't see Bobby having the ability to see reason, or even recollect why they would've made the pact in the first place, not at this point anyway. I also think that Bobby's words were in essence to remind us all of the fact that both boys have been off the rails since he died. Bobby said that but if you noticed, Sam was never given the chance to reply. <br /><br />There are a few reasons why I think that the not looking meant not looking for a way to bring dean back.<br /><br />Carver wrote ep 1 of s8 and he had Sam tell Dean that he thought he was dead, more than once. <br />It was also established that a pact/agreement was made not to look. Now it was never stated in the agreement that they would look for ea. other if either went missing. Carver was a writer for like 3 years during the kripke era and at no point during kripke's era or sera's was there ever a time when the boys would not look for ea. other if they went missing. That's an utterly ridiculous notion. There isn't a single reason or event that occurred that would have either brother decide not to look for the other if one of them disappeared. But there is precedence, since show began for a pact to be made in which they wouldn't look for a way to bring the other back. <br /><br />Dean had no reaction to Sam's confession. I would think that Sam telling Dean he in fact did look for him and then stopped would've made dean question why sam never told him that to begin with. <br /><br />When Lucifer was showing sam his memory of Amelia...Lucifer said to sam...you didn't even bother looking for dean....then sam replied not that it's your concern, but me and dean promised not to look for ea. other...now if it was about looking ( as in trying to find him) then why did luci mention that he never bothered, why wouldn't luci taunt sam about trying and failing, that would seem more his style and would make sense given Sam's apology to dean....To me it makes more sense that Sam never tried looking for a way to bring Dean back, he didn't turn over every stone to find alternatives to demon deals...and with that he stopped..he imploded and ran. <br /><br /><br />but even if your of the view that Sam actually did try to look for dean, but he couldn't find him and ultimately gave up which caused him to implode and run....resulting in Sam, as a means of self preservation, as the mind will do whatever it takes to survive, to convince himself beyond a shadow of a doubt that his brother was , in fact, dead and with that broke and quit..he couldn't do it anymore and surrendered. <br /><br />no matter how you look at it , I think the message is the same. Sam's guilt is his weakness. His guilt is a result from believing he failed his brother, in believing he was weak ....for giving up. By apologizing, Sam is allowing himself to be free of this guilt. Guilt is no longer an influence on his decisions. He is stronger now and it's this strength that will enable him to fight the D. and now apparently luci as well. LOLAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02072198570267148553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-31102072856381125802016-01-31T08:32:34.268+11:002016-01-31T08:32:34.268+11:00I have a problem with the theory that Sam stopped ...I have a problem with the theory that Sam stopped looking for Dean because of the "promise." If that was the case then why was Bobby so dismissive of it? Why was Bobby so mean to Sam? He practically spat at Sam..."That was a non agreement!". That part really bugged me. I want to believe that Sam fell apart after Dean vanished and couldn't cope. After Mystery Spot and watching Dean die and go to hell, himself going to hell, losing his soul and his mind...he couldn't handle going "full metal jacket" again in a quest to find Dean. Did he cling to the promise as a way to do that? He clung to Amelia and a normal life to survive, just like you said. But why did the writers have Bobby say what he did? Besides being a plot device to up Sam's guilt for the season 8 finale, I don't get it. Your very smart, what do you think, Anna?Mallenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368492098724611717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-57305023735574827452016-01-30T14:03:48.307+11:002016-01-30T14:03:48.307+11:00please don't apologize...i want to hear what ...please don't apologize...i want to hear what everyone thinks....i just lay the groundwork..i am very interested in others' thoughts. and you call that rambling....LOLAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02072198570267148553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-1766132250999058892016-01-30T13:36:36.210+11:002016-01-30T13:36:36.210+11:00I loved your thinky thoughts Anna. I agree, I thi...I loved your thinky thoughts Anna. I agree, I think both boys need to trust that each other will always understand whatever problem is happening, but with Dean I think he's so used to shouldering all the responsibility he doesn't actually know how to share. I think though he's getting there as you said. Sorry for rambling lol!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-67772542044286501922016-01-30T12:53:27.817+11:002016-01-30T12:53:27.817+11:00thank you miss lilah...would love to hear yours as...thank you miss lilah...would love to hear yours as well. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02072198570267148553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-35528267778284732802016-01-29T23:23:17.402+11:002016-01-29T23:23:17.402+11:00Nice thinky thoughts again Anna. They were a joy t...Nice thinky thoughts again Anna. They were a joy to read. :)<br /><br />- LilahAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15750045315538775297noreply@blogger.com