tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post4771251359382271131..comments2024-01-14T20:10:35.255+11:00Comments on sweetondean: Review - Supernatural 9.12 "Sharp Teeth"sweetondeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-41050178233498990532014-02-04T09:27:07.732+11:002014-02-04T09:27:07.732+11:00nj spnfan left this comment, but his mouse went wh...nj spnfan left this comment, but his mouse went whack-a-doo and deleted it. He told me I could repost it on his behalf. I thought he made an excellent point which made me think about things! Which is good and bad :D<br /><br />Anyway here it is - on his behalf (I couldn't figure out how to restore it properly).<br /><br />Sweetondean - If the roles were reversed, I truly don't think Sam would have tricked Dean in to being possessed by an angel to save him because it goes against the very core of who Dean is. That's why Sam raised the issue about the conversation in Sacrifice; Dean told Sam he has always put him first but, in 9.01, his actions to save Sam put Dean's wishes first; as Dean told Sam in 9.10 when Sam said "I was ready to die, Dean", Dean replied "I know. But I wouldn't let you, because that's not in me.". Putting aside the wisdom of trying to close the gates of hell in the first place, if anyone else had been doing the trials, Dean would not have tried to talk them out of finishing. In fact, if roles were reversed, Dean most likely would have finished regardless of Sam's wishes. I realizedthis argument is academic because, no Sam, no show, but I think this gets to the root of Sam's statement that they see each other's roles in this differently, and that something is broke between them.<br /><br />If the series had ended with Swan Song, with Dean agreeing to Sam saying yes to Lucifer, I think that "fixed" things as far as the codependency issues between them. But, thankfully, the series continued so they needed to created additional strife, and we're back on the merry go round again. This time, however, it looks as though Jeremy Carver is trying to actually address it once and for all. Both brothers need to change their attitudes/perceptions towards one another; this is going to be tougher for Dean because of his role as parent/caretaker/brother to Sam. It kind of looks to me like there will be a switch in roles for the rest of S9 and in to S10, with Sam having a "human" story arc, and Dean headed down a much darker path.<br /><br />That being said, it's fascinating to read everyone's take on this. sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-659005472631023772014-02-04T02:56:17.804+11:002014-02-04T02:56:17.804+11:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08930165871946313005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-69102160859531488162014-02-03T17:45:25.559+11:002014-02-03T17:45:25.559+11:00I am the one that wrote the post and it wasn't...I am the one that wrote the post and it wasn't meant to say that it was right for gadreel to possess Sam or that the three saved lives cancelled out Kevin's death...they don't. However it is a straight shot to a mental breakdown to let the bad in your life, no matter how horrendous, totally take over your lifem . Part of healing is starting to recognize the little nuggets of good no matter how small. When I lost my son, I could have let the depression and the sorrow destroy me but I chose to recognize and dwell on the good. If you have never suffered great loss, don't assume you know what is the best way for each individual to deal with it is. Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03644327276831523248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-29321579670293727682014-02-03T06:59:52.153+11:002014-02-03T06:59:52.153+11:00Yes and also so sad. Yes and also so sad. sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-6372951858177400852014-02-02T22:58:03.510+11:002014-02-02T22:58:03.510+11:00Hi!
I totally get what you're saying, even th...Hi!<br /><br />I totally get what you're saying, even though I think we see things a little differently we see a lot the same and I understand your frustrations and have at times shared them.<br /><br />I guess I'm looking at what you said from a slightly different angle. If we do keep going on this merrygoround (yes I know it's the writers doing it but I guess I look at it from the story inside the show), that to me does say that the same mistakes will keep happening over and over. I'm like you, I don't want that to happen.<br /><br />Dean has tried to let Sam grow-up. I think the end of Swan Song and that conversation on the car where he said he'd back Sam's play was a great moment for that reason. But then he regresses and does things/makes decisions on Sam's behalf that should really be discusses with Sam. He doesn't tell Sam because he knows in his heart Sam won't like it. Sam of course has and does do that too...we all do that and we all also understand why Dean does what he does. But I guess I feel like I understand why Sam, at 30 something, depending on what timeline you are following (!) would find this frustrating. For me, I think this is what he's saying here. I trusted you Dean, you told me I was your number one priority and yet you did something you knew I wouldn't like which goes against what I believed of you. Frustrating and dissapointing and for Sam, at least this is what I think, he doesn't feel like he is being treated with respect in their relationship.<br /><br />Of course, we know why Dean did what he did and does what he does and like you, I love that part of their relationship, (By the way, if the shoe was on the other foot, do you think Sam would have done the same thing...I think he would have, what do you think? Be interested to hear that). But I can also see why that wouldn't work for Sam.<br /><br />I think Sam wants to feel that Dean respects and trusts him as well as loves him. He knows Dean loves him, but we know he doesn't feel Dean trusts and respects and believes in him - because he's told Dean.<br /><br />The whole Sacrifice thing hurt because it's super important to me too. I get why it was used - for that very reason - but it frightens me because it is so important and I don't want that to be lost.<br /><br />But I want these brothers off the hurting each other merrygoround. I want them to love and respect each other. I want them to want to be with each other because they want to be with each other. Because they enjoy being with each other through affection, friendship, brotherly bonds. But I feel like we seen too much of them simply being together because they know no other way to be. I want them to know another way.<br /><br />I guess bottomline, like you, I just want them to be happy because that makes me happy. I agree, I don't want them to be constantly fighting and betraying each other, but I guess I'm willing to see where this one goes, because if it gets them to a better place emotionally, without losing a bit of what makes them special along the way, then I'm all for it.<br /><br />Does that make sense?sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-59946851548977142522014-02-02T22:31:36.346+11:002014-02-02T22:31:36.346+11:00continued from last post...
The writers keep on m...continued from last post...<br /><br />The writers keep on mining the brothers relationship for drama rather than, as they did in the early seasons, having the drama / threats come predominantly from outside the relationship. Yes there were still issues then, but they were much better handled and NEVER forced the audience to doubt for one second how much either of these boys cared about the other. <br /><br />As a source of drama the brothers bond is utterly played out IMO. Because we all know they won't stay apart, and they've followed the same pattern of break up / reconciliation with a big bro hug pattern so many times it is now boring for the audience and has lost all its power to shock or move people. It is IMO a huge mistake to keep going round this loop because every time they do it they divide the fandom, make another set of people lose faith in one or both characters (mainly Sam has been the victim of this), and destroy the faith of a proportion of the audience in the strength / importance of the brothers bond. They are chipping away constantly at the foundations of the show and if they weaken them too much the audience will drift away.<br /><br />It is great that you seek out the most positive spin on things, and usually I find myself agreeing with you on most points. But I think your efforts here are letting the writers off the hook. Rather than saying 'what does this ep mean' we should be asking 'why are they doing this AGAIN to the audience and to the brothers'?<br /><br />My main concern in all this is that I think JC has a vision for where he wants the boys to get to that I simply don't share. I think he wants to get rid of the codependence which I don't want and he wants a 'mature' relationship. Sadly – as he thought Sam not looking for Dean was 'mature' I don't think he understands the meaning of the word.<br /><br />Finally – even if I am going to like where the brothers end up, if it only happens in the final ep I will have had to watch many, many eps I don't enjoy for one ep I do. They have to get the balance right. It is irrelevant how wonderful a destination is if you spend all your 2 week holiday getting there, the journey is hell and you can only spend 5 minutes there before you have to set off home again. <br /><br />Sorry to go on. I am feeling pretty heartbroken at the moment – hence the long post.geordiegirl1967https://www.blogger.com/profile/01230671249845128919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-50107098458905727012014-02-02T22:30:44.233+11:002014-02-02T22:30:44.233+11:00Hi Amy. Geordiegirl1967 here (struggling to log in...Hi Amy. Geordiegirl1967 here (struggling to log in to your blog on wordpress)<br /><br />We've been trying to have this debate on Twitter but the character limit makes it really difficult so I thought I'd come here.<br /><br />Firstly I want to say that I hugely appreciate your (in this case Herculean IMO) efforts to be positive about the show. I have no time for unrelenting negativity and cynicism, and the all-pervasive (it feels sometimes) 'they can't do anything right' attitude that is out there.<br /><br />However that doesn't mean I think the show is perfect and there are times, like this, when I am so disappointed in it that it breaks my heart.<br /><br />There are 2 ways to discuss the events in this ep; either to discuss their meaning within the story, or to discuss the writers choices behind what they show us on screen. I have issues with both but primarily with the second.<br /><br />Your efforts to explain what Sam might have meant, and to put a credible spin on what we saw are fine in a discussion of this one ep (although I don't share all of your conclusions) but my bigger picture question is 'why are we here AGAIN?'. <br /><br />This is the 5th season in a row that they have forced us around this hamster wheel of 'secret/guilt/reveal/anger/estrangement/physical reuniting/more guilt and anger/some big moment/honest communication/emotional reuniting/breakthrough/reconciliation and repair' only to dismantle it all and start again the next season. <br /><br />We've had;<br />s4/5 and the Ruby story. At the resolution of this in Swan Song Dean had allowed Sam to grow up, to make a decision he didn't like and that would probably mean he'd lose him and he backed him on it. They were in the best place they'd ever been then IMO. Good for Kripke. I miss him.<br />s6 and the huge soulless Sam mistake (IMO – that wasted half a season) which interrupted the progress they'd made but didn't break anything as it wasn't really Sam. At the end of s6 Sam chose to accept all the consequences of his hell memories rather than leave Dean alone. Not seeing anything broken there. Again they were fine, loved each other and wanted to hunt together / be together.<br />s7 and the Amy incident. This was a more minor bump in the road but the writers couldn't resist sending us around that loop again. It was dealt with and they put it behind them.<br />s8 was the nadir for me and the closest I've ever come to giving up on the show. When the writers chose to have Sam not look for Dean something broke for me in my relationship with the show. I waited all season for a credible explanation for that ludicrously ooc action and I didn't get it. Worse still JC claimed it was a 'mature' decision by Sam. At that point I lost trust that JC and his writing team actually knew and understood Dean and Sam and their bond. My faith was somewhat restored with Sacrifice but now they are denigrating that beautiful moment and turning it into a bad thing / a manipulation / a mistake.<br />Now we have the same boring pattern again. <br /><br />We are told that their relationship is broken and needs fixing. a) I don't think it is broken; not perfect but certainly not broken b) If it is broken THEY chose to break it and c) if they intend to 'fix' it I have no confidence in their vision of a repaired relationship. I like my bros codependent. Is it healthy if they were real people? No. But is it part of why I love this show so much and I utterly refute that it is a bad thing / a weakness. It has saved the world and helped them save each other many times.geordiegirl1967https://www.blogger.com/profile/01230671249845128919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-69516124210593633422014-02-02T21:56:04.020+11:002014-02-02T21:56:04.020+11:00It was a good step for them both and I think both ...It was a good step for them both and I think both of them are tangled up in their own grief and hurt at them moment. <br /><br />I must admit I'm quite surprise that people are angry with Sam. I guess I also see this as a no win situation because there are fans that will be angry because Sam has made a stand for what he wants and in doing so has hurt his brother - simply by default and in someway gone against what has alwasy been the heart of this show - but had he not stated his hurt and disappointment and simply forgiven Dean a lot of fans would be angry about that too because Sam wouldn't have been given his right to his feelings and his point of view.<br /><br />To me what happened in this episode is the only realitic reaction from Sam. Anything else, well I don't think that would be right for Sam. He deserves to be able say his piece and state how he feels.<br /><br />Dean knows he hurt Sam - he said he took a piece of Sam and he knows it - he knows he did wrong. He can't be surprised by Sam's reaction. Maybe by the brother/family thing - but these are the things that need work. The hunting relationship, they have down pat. The brother relationship needs them both to honestly look at it.<br /><br />This for sure are the first steps towards that.<br />sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-45107663458687297092014-02-02T21:17:12.224+11:002014-02-02T21:17:12.224+11:00No it absolutely shouldn't make Sam feel bette...No it absolutely shouldn't make Sam feel better about being possessed. Those things didn't even entre my mind. I'd forgotten about that in the horror of Kevin and what followed.<br /><br />sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-2756495514597923672014-02-02T21:14:40.228+11:002014-02-02T21:14:40.228+11:00Then I would love to know what Anonymous meant whe...Then I would love to know what Anonymous meant when he/she said that Sam 'needs' to remember that 'even though Kevin is dead, Cas and Charlie and Dean are all still alive. I wonder why he/she is choosing to focus on positives that arose from Sam being possessed by an angel as opposed to the bad side. Should it make him feel better about being possessed, less angry about it, because there was a 'benefit' to him being violated? Perhaps Anonymous will reply in time. <br /><br />And yes, seeing only one characters side is tedious beyond belief. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-77877198747219544712014-02-02T21:10:22.408+11:002014-02-02T21:10:22.408+11:00Yes agreed. He trusted Dean to make the right choi...Yes agreed. He trusted Dean to make the right choice for him and Dean didn't. It's going to be a hard thing for them to work through, but I believe that Sam wants to work towards a relationship where he feels respected otherwise he wouldn't get in the car.sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-53416599210444627122014-02-02T21:07:42.366+11:002014-02-02T21:07:42.366+11:00"he did make a choice to trust with and go wi..."he did make a choice to trust with and go with his brother no questions asked" - This is a difficult topic, because actually that's the core of the conflict I think. Sam trusted Dean to make a "right" decision. That's why he said yes. It's something he did not expect from his brother, something he wouldn't agree to. It might be a choice, but the sad thing for Sam is, that he's not able to make that kind of choice anymore, and shouldn't have done back then. <br />... I'm really wondering how they can fix that. =( Because they have to. But it's really very much broken... ._.Laoihnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-24986085316639719782014-02-02T20:38:55.209+11:002014-02-02T20:38:55.209+11:00I did read what that commenter said as saying thin...I did read what that commenter said as saying thinking of the negated everything else. That's not said there as far as I can see. No I don't think the good negates the bad. And Sam may not even remember the fact that Gadreel saved Castiel and Charlie. It's not been made absolutely clear if he has all the memories. I assume he does but who knows.sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-43017856795670287572014-02-02T20:35:36.695+11:002014-02-02T20:35:36.695+11:00No, that's what I read. That Sam should think...No, that's what I read. That Sam should think about those Gadreel saved as opposed to those he killed. Since when does focusing on the good negate the bad? <br /><br />For me, focusing on the 'good' that Gadreel did should not take away from the 'bad' that he did. Perhaps you see if differently. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-24574332376476442932014-02-02T20:24:06.010+11:002014-02-02T20:24:06.010+11:00I didn't see anger or emotion driving Sam to s...I didn't see anger or emotion driving Sam to say what he said in the last scene. I thought he was rational, patient, empathic and very pragmatic. He listened to Dean, heard him out, set him straight on a thing or two and then said what needed to be said. It wasn't about trying to 'break Dean's heart' and Sam being 'well aware of the fact'. It certainly wasn’t about trying to deliberately hurt Dean. Things have gotten too serious for that sort of pettiness. That scene was about trying to get Dean to understand where he was coming from. Their bond, their brotherhood, them hunting together as brothers costs lives. Dean does seem to consider 'family' as a cure all, or an excuse to justify what they do for each other and brush off the consequences of those actions. Worryingly, Dean has already more than implied he'd take the same course of action again if the situation demanded. <br /><br />However, Sam was right. Everything that has gone wrong between them is because they are 'family'. They do things for each other that they wouldn't do for other people. They do things for each other that they wouldn't allow other people to do for their own family. And it has cost them and others hugely. John's quest for revenge for Mary ruined their childhood. John's selling his soul for Dean broke Dean. Dean doing the same thing for Sam broke Sam and not only ended up breaking the first seal but drove Sam on the path for revenge which led to the final seal being broken. This season 'family' led Dean to be okay with leaving the Gates of Hell open (which will cost plenty of other people their family) so that Sam would live, and Sam was okay with doing the same thing so that he 'wouldn't let Dean down' again. Dean’s decision to put an angel into Sam led to Kevin’s death which led to Dean getting the mark of Cain. <br /><br />Dean would not have talked anyone else but Sam out of finishing the trials. Sam would not have stopped the trials for anyone else but Dean and because of that people will die. If Sam or Dean had been hunting with someone else, the Gates of Hell would be closed now and scores of lives would be saved. Is this not their goal as hunters? <br /> <br />That’s why it was important for Sam to address the church scene in Sacrifice here. Not only was the church scene diminished by Dean’s actions in season 9 because it turned a ‘declaration of love’ (which was really about how much Dean sacrificed for Sam and how much more he was willing to sacrifice for Sam) into something dark. Love is meant to be about the other person and what they want, not what you need. It’s meant to be about protection, not possession, choice and not compulsion. Add to that, it drove home to Sam just how much their willingness to put each other before anyone else costs. So they can be hunters or they can be brothers, but the way things were going definitely has to change because, under this current regime, being brothers who hunt together does more harm than good. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-47038834571386228592014-02-02T20:08:00.443+11:002014-02-02T20:08:00.443+11:00Hi Sweetondean, thanks for your review. You've...Hi Sweetondean, thanks for your review. You've summed it up well - and it's the best, most balanced, review I've seen so far. <br /><br />I've done quite a lot of reading of reviews and comments after this week's episode because it seemed to be polarizing people. And initially I was a bit upset (mostly with comments on Twitter) because it seemed that a lot of people were upset with Sam & I found myself really wanting to defend him. We all knew that Sam would be pissed when he found out what Dean had done in letting Gadreel possess him... and that was before we knew about the cost of Kevin dying. So, it really surprised me this week when people seemed disappointed in Sam. It didn't make sense to me. <br /><br />I admit it, I do tend to see things more from Sam's perspective, but I love both brothers (like you do) and all I could think about after this episode was how much pain both brothers are in. Not just one of them; both of them. I wanted to tell people to stop judging Sam so harshly. He's in as much pain as Dean, it's just more internalized (because that's how Sam is). <br /><br />Clearly I'm way too attached to this show and these brothers ;)<br /><br />My main point (which you've also made in your review) is that I think Sam is too caught up in his own grief at the moment to see what this is doing to Dean. But I also have faith that he'll get to the point where he can forgive and understand why Dean had to do what he did. <br /><br />When Sam started talking about being brothers, I think he just couldn't find the right words to explain what he means. Unfortunately, by cutting short the discussion like that it's left Dean (and many of us) with the wrong idea about what he was saying. I really just think he was saying they have to work on their relationship because it's broken at the moment (but it's not irreparable). <br /><br />Even though the final scene was incredibly painful for Sam and Dean (and for all of us), I'm looking at it with hopeful optimism. Dean initiated the conversation and Sam got back into the impala. They've both taken the first small steps and I think it can only get better from here. <br /><br />Oh, and I'm also looking forward - very much - to yoga with Sam next week ;)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-63931274572616870432014-02-02T20:00:11.003+11:002014-02-02T20:00:11.003+11:00I think they can do that without the amulet.I think they can do that without the amulet.sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-48161880753694218272014-02-02T19:57:29.718+11:002014-02-02T19:57:29.718+11:00So no amulet then ! okay :(
But do u think that so...So no amulet then ! okay :(<br />But do u think that sometimes its imp to shw ppl where they have been so that they figure out where they r going?spookynerdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-86155695247130827812014-02-02T19:49:03.742+11:002014-02-02T19:49:03.742+11:00Was that what was being said in that comment? I do...Was that what was being said in that comment? I don't think so. I think you chose to read it like that.<br />sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-2656662723369751812014-02-02T19:41:11.987+11:002014-02-02T19:41:11.987+11:00Yikes, that's rather disturbing, that Sam shou...Yikes, that's rather disturbing, that Sam should remember that Dean tricking him into being possessed saved the lives of Dean and his friends, as if that negates what Dean did and the lives that Gadreel took. It's like saying that a rape victim should be thankful to her rapist because she got pregnant as a result of the rape, but loves her child. (I'm not saying Dean is a rapist, but the analogy is appropriate.) Isn't Dean determined to get revenge on Gadreel? Why isn't he considering all the lives that Gadreel 'saved'? <br /><br />And strangely, the countless lives that Sam saved while using his powers, the demons he killed were never taken into consideration when people were passing judgment on Sam's actions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-90716551285575661392014-02-02T17:04:48.974+11:002014-02-02T17:04:48.974+11:00I think that the amulet is a representation of wha...I think that the amulet is a representation of what their relationship was, not where it is now or where it should be. as they move forward together. sweetondeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521111526235603389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-82384997815324786862014-02-02T16:59:59.667+11:002014-02-02T16:59:59.667+11:00I'm a Dean girl and I love Sam but I can never...I'm a Dean girl and I love Sam but I can never forgive Dean for hanging up the phone on Sam throwing the amulet IN THE BIN...IN FRONT OF SAM<br />Sam's face when he does that..still saddens me. <br />Maybe..just maybe Sam gives the amulet to Dean now ...just to show him, that he trusts him again.<br />*sigh* a girl can hope, right?spookynerdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-48398929758780895992014-02-02T16:54:57.355+11:002014-02-02T16:54:57.355+11:00"Hopefully for season 10 - where I'm sure..."Hopefully for season 10 - where I'm sure something horrible will happen and they'll be ripped apart just when they start feeling good again!!!"<br /><br />I'm positive something like this is going to happenspookynerdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-12177685363101867392014-02-02T16:52:00.199+11:002014-02-02T16:52:00.199+11:00"I completely understand his anger over the G..."I completely understand his anger over the Gadreel thing. I get that. Dean knew he’d be mad.<br />Sam made a decision about his future and Dean essentially overrode his brother’s decision. He tricked his brother into saying, “Yes”. He allowed an angel to possess his brother and that angel went on to cause horrific damage and murder someone that Sam and Dean both loved, while wearing Sam’s body. I understand why Sam would be absolutely furious"<br /><br />we sure do!<br /><br />Was he doubting that Dean’s motivations were anything other than to have Sam live? Is Sam implying that Dean somehow duped him into not closing the gates of Hell? Does he doubt Dean’s love? Or was Sam simply saying that Dean said he’d always put Sam first and then almost immediately went back on his word by putting his own desires for Sam to be alive ahead of Sam’s desire to go with Death. There are 10 sides to every argument and I can see them all!<br /><br />And we would like to hear them.<br /><br />"I swear to God, in this moment you could actually see Dean Winchester’s heart break.<br />If you’re going to hurt Dean, this is exactly how to do it and I’m pretty sure Sam is well aware of that fact."<br /><br /><br />"I’m all for it, but do me a bloody favour Show, let’s get there quickly because this shit hurts too much."<br />Amen to that...<br /><br />Thank you for covering the last scene..and addressing the church scene in sacrifice :'(spookynerdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5468827929342532499.post-41948841315517172412014-02-02T16:41:25.203+11:002014-02-02T16:41:25.203+11:00"I think what Dean said was I love you above ... "I think what Dean said was I love you above all others. I think what Sam heard was I trust you above all others. "<br />Retrospectively speaking..completely agree.<br /><br /> I think to Sam his life wasn't worth all the lives that were lost because Dean couldn't let him go. <br />Thats certainly one acceptable explanation.<br />spookynerdnoreply@blogger.com